American Bragging Rights and Two Separate Screen Fights

Paul J Daly: 0:18We made it to Wednesday. Look at us. It is June 18. I got Michael Cirillo with me today to talk about the most American car, which seems like an ironic thing to have you on the show for who that is. And sometimes I feel like you may be more American than me at this point. They don't live in Texas. Well, here's what

‍Michael Cirillo: 0:40

I've learned. I moved to Texas. I found my people because in Canada, everybody's like, you're kind of stern sometimes. And one time I when we first moved here, not quite polite enough for Canada. Not quite polite enough. It was like this guy is really direct, little honest. A little too honest. Yeah, to be honest. We hadn't experienced right after we moved here where my kids were getting immunizations for school and my my one son was kind of making a fool of himself and I'm giving him the there's a time and a place. And I see this dad at the at the pharmacy window, look back at me. and Canadian Michael kicked in. I'm like, oh, it's about to go down. I gotta prepare. This guy's gonna lash out at me and say You're being too strict. And he walked straight up to me and I will not lie. I clench my fists ready to go. You walk straight up to me and goes, good job. And fist bumps me.

Unknown: 1:35

You're like I have arrived. I have arrived. I've

Paul J Daly: 1:39

arrived. That's an amazing story. Wait, why don't we start on Wednesday with a story like that? If you didn't know and you probably do. Michael Cirillo hails from Texas. Mu and hails from Canada, moved to Texas. And when he got there, one of his newly found fellow Texans said, you know, Canada and Texas have a lot in common. And he goes really? And he says, yeah, they both border, the United States. That's one of my favorite lines. Ever. Oh man. Well, we're having a lot of fun releasing our ASOTU CON sessions podcasts that were recorded live at ASOTU CON so if you couldn't be there, you can listen to these podcasts that were recorded in front of a live studio audience. I love it. I wasn't able to be there for a lot of these podcasts. Michael, you hosted a bunch of these what was that experience like

Michael Cirillo: 2:25

it was a blast and I was so excited because the the live audience I mean for those that couldn't make it amazing you got to come next time the the live audience was there it was interactive. And the conversations were just next level I really enjoyed it.

Paul J Daly: 2:37

I think next year maybe we like 10 things out to the live audience we

Michael Cirillo: 2:42

rent out Cowboys Stadium to me I

Paul J Daly: 2:45

will I will never if I ever set foot in that stadium it will be the Hyde Eagles gear

Michael Cirillo: 2:54

motivator than me it would be to get a hot dog and not feel judged. Right eat hot dog with

Paul J Daly: 2:59

my fellow Texans. Oh, that's so much fun. We have we have oops that that song is still playing. They're my favorite. We have we have some fun stuff to cover today. So let's talk about the first story this is a great one our from our 2024 cars.com American made index reveals the most American made cars with this for this year bringing in I would say some surprise shifts in the top 10. So our friends@cars.com do such great editorial work they put this list together it's basically determined by five key criteria to ensure a comprehensive assessment of vehicles domestic production impact so they talked about assembly location percentage of US and Canadian parts love it do that so include those origin of the engines origin of the transmissions and then the balance of US manufacturing workforce so it's all of that combined for the third year though Michael do it the most American car is ah no Tesla Model y

Michael Cirillo: 4:05

I should have you should have known that model

Paul J Daly: 4:08

investment I thought I was like setting one right over the net for you. So basically the Tesla Model while number one for the third year in a row as the most American car Tesla's other models have actually dropped down in some of the rankings due to Tesla's workforce calculations. Here the top 10 Tesla Model y this is going to surprise a lot of people It surprised me Tesla Model y Honda passport Volkswagen ID four Tesla Model S the Honda Odyssey honda ridgeline Toyota Camry Jeep gladiator got a Jeep on there at number eight, Texas Model X and the Lexus TX get this GM General Motors right you think Detroit big three General Motors doesn't show up on this list. Until number 23 Whoa with the Colorado and Ford is on the bench. Until number 31 Oh With the Mustang, what? I feel like you could say that and like 40 years from now with your old man, what?

Michael Cirillo: 5:11

Exactly.

Paul J Daly: 5:13

I was shocked. I was completely shocked. You know, it's

Michael Cirillo: 5:15

crazy. Because when what threw me off is you said American car. Yeah. And I was going to the big three. Absolutely. Like, I'm thinking American made

Paul J Daly: 5:27

F 150. Is it? You know? No,

Michael Cirillo: 5:31

I mean, how many Tesla's in the top 10? All of them. Legitimately all of them. Oh, that's gonna tick some people off.

Paul J Daly: 5:41

Well, if I think this is something that we as an industry, it's easy to forget about, right? Because there is this like, kind of like, real competitive thing. And you think of Tesla and Elon Musk and, and like, driverless and no franchise model. But from a Wii Benz, Brian, Ben sucks said this before, like, like the richest man in the world is a car guy. You know, that's that's what he would say. But the reality is like, here is a car and a technology that was innovated. Manufacturing was birthed from nothing new innovative manufacturing techniques. It was kept on US soil and now is sold more than any other car. Like that's, that's a pretty significant American entrepreneurial story.

Michael Cirillo: 6:25

From an immigrant pass through Canada, through

Paul J Daly: 6:30

Canada, all roads are connecting. So to kind of like put a bow on all this, a recent survey indicates that listed 56% of in market shoppers prefer American made vehicles with many willing to pay more for an American made vehicle to support domestic jobs. So it's obvious that this American made ranking does weigh in, in the consumer psyche and building the value and then willing to pay a little bit more for a vehicle that does support. You know, props to Toyota, Honda for figuring out a way to manufacture on US soil. I honestly feel like they don't talk about it enough.

Michael Cirillo: 7:08

I mean, there's real significance on a global scale here, because, you know, I was talking to some of my pals in Holland, and there are at least two dozen Evie manufacturers that have emerged in the last three years in Europe doesn't. Yes, and they're all from China. So so this idea for America America made I mean, there's there's something to be marketed there.

Paul J Daly: 7:37

I literally when I read the report, I couldn't believe it. But it's got me rethinking a lot. Speaking of rethinking a lot segue. So yesterday, I don't know if you saw but Kyle and I were talking about Apple's their announcement of their new CarPlay technology going just wireless trying to take over like the instrument cluster and all these things while recent McKinsey and Company survey reveals that a third of car buyers would refuse to purchase a vehicle without Apple CarPlay or Andrew on Android Auto support, underscoring the importance of smartphone integration. 30% of Evie buyers and 35% of ice buyers globally consider smartphone integration as an essential element to their purchase. In the US 25% of Eevee buyers and 38% of gas buyers feel the same way. So it's a little even higher. In the US some buyers willing to pay extra to have this feature. You know, automakers obviously wary of seating, you know the infotainment control over to a third party tech company, Kevin Owens kowski of McKinsey said plainly if an OEM moves away from seamless smartphone integration, obviously, that's a risk.

Michael Cirillo: 8:50

You want to know really grinds my gears.

Paul J Daly: 8:53

I'm not an Eevee. There are no gears and nev my friend. Interesting

Michael Cirillo: 8:56

about this, especially since I mean in our other show Auto Collabs we've been having discussions about compliance and safety and there's a lot of legal implications and this and that and keeping people's privacy safe. And in the same breath

Paul J Daly: 9:13

where we're willing to give up all of our information, all of it are all of it

Michael Cirillo: 9:19

that's being tracked by the like people don't realize this. I remember in the early days a clubhouse. We had a discussion about this in one of the rooms about automaking and I'm like okay, but people people need to understand something. That when Steve Jobs stood up and said you can put 2500 songs in here, and people went 2500 songs in my pocket. If you translate the alien nests of that statement to English, what he was saying is I'm putting a data collection device in everyone's pocket.

Paul J Daly: 9:52

And you're gonna thank me for it and you're gonna

Michael Cirillo: 9:55

pay me and then and then this thing goes everywhere with us tracks are ever Move I find my phone. What an excellent feature. Yeah, giving up more. Hey, this guy goes to, you know, he goes to the grocery store. Oh, wow, this guy hangs out at 711. I love this is what they're gathering at the grocery store with some people, right? Yeah, I was, I was that was the first thought trust me a little bit more, watch this one a little bit, and then comes along CarPlay. And as if these things didn't know enough about us, and now you don't think your data you don't think it's collecting? You're breaking behavior when you get in an accident? abrupt stop is absolutely as this thing no now. So now the car knows everything about us. Our phone knows everything about us. And we're sitting over here pretending that privacy is an issue. Yeah.

Paul J Daly: 10:49

Oh, last week, we covered a story that there's an app of a company who is owned by Allstate, that creates individual driving profiles for people and feeds it back to the insurance company. I have questions like what if I'm driving with you and your driving sucks? Is my insurance gonna go up? Look

Michael Cirillo: 11:05

at what's his buckets from 10x health? I can't Gary, Gary Brecker, cat brecha or whatever the guy's name is used to work for the insurance companies and had so much data. Okay, this is crazy, had so much data on how people live their life that he could predict when you will die within a month of it actually happening and he was right like 99% of the time. Whoa.

Paul J Daly: 11:29

I don't. I don't want to know. I don't want to know that. Easy.

Michael Cirillo: 11:33

That's how much data we have out there. We're pretending that cookies on a website mean something. Speaking of

Paul J Daly: 11:39

pretending that the phone is not impacting Nice segue. perfect segue actually. It didn't rehearse this is fully unrehearsed US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy. Murthy has proposed a mandatory warning labels on social media platforms to highlight their potential mental health risks to young people. He cites studies showing social media increases anxiety and depression in teens, as teens spend an average five hours a day on social media doubling, doubling mental health risks. Lawmakers youth advocates are long criticized social media for harming children. If you're around a child that has access to social media, you already knew this. He's urging Congress Congress to legislate warning labels stating that the mental health crisis amongst young people is an emergency he told CNN, quote, I pull I put forward this call warning because I think it's essential that parents know what we know now, which is that there are significant harms associated with social media use. You seem surprised, Mike.

Michael Cirillo: 12:41

I'm not you know, the first thought that came to my mind is when you give a device to your child, you're not giving them access to the world you're giving the world access to them is the first thought that came to my mind. The second thing is it reminded me of a study that was conducted years ago, this is almost a decade ago, I want to say by the University of Copenhagen, in which they did a study with 1000 students 500 Abstain from social media for 30 days, the specifically was Facebook, which they cited. The other half remained using social media Facebook for 30 days, at the end of 30 days, they observed an increase in happiness, and a decrease in anxiety from those that abstained and a complete increase of anxiety and depression related mental health challenges for those that did not abstain in addition to their their grades declining. So it's it's news. And it's not news, but it just validates the point of this day and age. While we have an abundance of access to social and internet and information that can be used for good. We also have to go the extra step and safeguard our well being. Yeah,

Paul J Daly: 13:53

I fully agree and you know, thinking about how dealers take this information and get it to the ground knowing this, right, obviously as parents, and as uncles and aunts and grandparents, right. Like we can take this information and be like first See, I told you so. Right. But but the reality is, I think how do we knowing that there is this crisis amongst teens knowing they are in these mental states? How can we leverage our influence as an industry to sow the positive things into the world? Right? Not just buy, buy, buy, but how can we knowing that? Do things support organizations, even in our messaging, and our marketing, do things that uplift encourage, you know, encourage things like spending time together, face to face? I mean, that feels like that's what a card gets gives us. The ability to spend time together face to face, celebrate those things, encourage those things, and just pay attention to what's going on in culture. That's why we share this stuff with you. We're so happy Michael, thank you for joining me today.

Michael Cirillo: 14:54

Oh, shucks.

Unknown: 14:56

better way to start a Wednesday. I don't know what is it Everyone

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